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(12.09.2021, 10:26)Quintus Fabius schrieb: [ -> ]Man müsste halt aus politischen Gründen das Wort Drohne hier vermeiden und behaupten dass sei eine Art moderne Raketenartillerie oder sonstwie eine rethorische Verbrämung dafür finden.

Das tut man doch schon mit dem Begriff "Loitering Munition". Wenn ein Otto-Normal-Bürger weiß, was das ist, dann würde dieser auch eine sonstwie geartete Begriffsfindung durchschauen, erst recht die Presse.

Aber "Raketenartillerieaufklärung" wäre doch sogar die sich logischerweise ergebende Bezeichnung für eine Loitering-Munition-einsetzende Gattung der Bundeswehr.
Ein Artikel über die Drohnenbewaffnung der nigeranischen Streitkräfte.

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2021/09/a-...rones.html

So wie es aussieht zieht selbst ein Land wie Nigeria uns nun davon, absurd.
Wie konnte ich bisher hier die KARGU 2 Drohne nicht eintragen ?! Hab grad nachgeforscht und tatsächlich noch kein Eintrag zu diesem System, obwohl es so wesentlich ist und obwohl ich es seit Anfang 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Uw5ohtjWc

schon auf dem Schirm habe - darüber hinaus ist es auch das System welches höchstwahrscheinlich als erstes mein ewig altes Konzept einer Luftmine real umgesetzt hat und vollautonom in dieser Weise tötete:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/227...irst-time/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUUfEHsjhzY
Drohnen fallen vom Himmel - was bei einem ernsthaften Krieg aufgrund ECM / ECCM ständig so sein wird:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1445118812659933187
Drohnenwerfer für zielsuchende Drohnenmunition:

https://defence-blog.com/israeli-firm-to...munitions/

Zitat:Israeli firm to arm wheeled armored vehicles with loitering strike munitions

Israel-headquartered UVision developed HERO Multi-Canister Launcher (MCL), adapted for launching all types of HERO Loitering Munition Systems from a single platform.

The new launch system will deploy loitering munitions, sometimes referred to as suicide drones, against various ground targets.

As noted by the company, UVision Air Ltd. is for the first time introducing a launch capability for different HERO systems, from a single launcher during this year’s AUSA Annual Meeting in Washington DC.

“Giving field forces operational flexibility, the innovative capability enables them to choose and launch the most suitable system, depending on the nature of the mission and target – from the Hero-30 for smaller ‘surgical’ attacks, through the Hero-120 for medium-sized and armored targets, up to the Hero-400 for long-range and fortified targets,” the company said in a news release.

Exakt dies (auf GTK Boxer) benötigen wir für unsere Brigade-Artillerie und noch an vielen anderen Stellen.
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2021/10/th...rifle.html

Über die Akinci, benannt nach den Rennern und Brennern welche Europa verheerten:

Zitat:Haykırdı ak tolgalı beylerbeyi "İlerle!" - When the white clad bannerlord roared ''Forth cavalcade!'' (Akıncılar, by Yahya Kemal Beyatlı)

The Bayraktar Akıncı, which boasts a number of features not seen on any other type of UCAV produced anywhere before.

One of these features is the ability to launch high-precision cruise missiles at targets located 275+km away. This novel capability was made possible through the integration of the SOM series of cruise missiles developed by the Turkish TÜBİTAK Defense Industries Research and Development Institute. Due to size and weight limitations, only one cruise missile can be carried by the Akıncı under its single fuselage-mounted hardpoint. Still, this is a 100% increase over the operational cruise missile-carrying capabilities of any other drone type in the world.

The capability to carry SOM missiles is far from the Akıncı's only ace up its sleeve. Arguably the most innovative aspect of the Akıncı will be its prospective ability to use air-to-air missiles, consisting of the indigenous Bozdoğan IR-guided AAM, the Gökdoğan BVRAAM and the Sungur short-range AAM (itself a Turkish derivative of the FIM-92 Stinger MANPADS). The Akıncı's AESA radar enables it to autonomously pick out its targets at great range, and engage enemy slow-flying aircraft, helicopters and other drones at ranges as far as 100km away.

Its impressive air-to-air combat capabilities set aside, the Akıncı's expansive arsenal of air-to-ground weaponry will likely be its main (armament related) selling point. In this regard, the ability to carry several variants of the SOM family of cruise missiles designed to be used against enemy fortifications, ships or any other target that requires a precision hit with a 230kg heavy explosive warhead could end up being a real game changer. Their carriage doesn't only do much to expand on the capabilities of the UCAV fleet of its operator, but also frees up jet fighters for air combat tasks. This feat will be especially valuable for Turkey after its exclusion from the Join Strike Fighter programme.
Deutsche Drohnen als Dual-Use Technologie in Äthiopien:

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2021/10/ge...iopia.html

Zitat:Ethiopia's last acquisition of (unmanned) aircraft before the commencement of the Tigray War in November 2020 are not the Wing Loong IIs UCAVs the country is so often reported to have deployed during the early stages of the conflict. Instead, the last (unmanned) aircraft it acquired were three German Trinity F9 eVTOL UAVs received as a gift by the German government in October 2020. [1] Although delivered to Ethiopia to help the Ministry of Agriculture in areas of natural resources protection and humanitarian responses, it cannot be ruled that these UAVs are currently being used in the Tigray War.
Chinesische Drohnenschwärme die von Drohnenschwärmen aus agieren:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42...stry-video
Israel und Südkorea gehen eine Partnerschaft für die Entwicklung und Produktion neuer Drohnen ein:

https://defence-blog.com/israel-south-ko...ly-drones/

Zitat:Israeli government-owned aerospace giant Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) and South Korean defense contractor Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) inked a memorandum of understanding to cooperate in Loitering Munitions Program.

Loitering munitions combines the capabilities of a drone and a lethal missile by searching, identifying, attacking, and destroying targets, and performing battle damage assessment. The new weapon system is able to take out enemy high-value and relocatable targets.

According to an IAI news release, it signed a memorandum of understanding with KAI to secure a new concept weapons system that will maximize the effectiveness of Suppression and Destruction of Enermy Air Defenses (SEAD & DEAD) missions.

... um diese dann an die Türkei und die Azeris zu verhökern damit diese die Technologie klauen können etc pp
Neue türkische Marinedrohne...
Zitat:Turkish Navy Gets 1st Aksungur MALE UAV From TAI

Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) has delivered the first Aksungur twin-engine medium-altitude long-endurance (MALE) unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) to the Turkish Navy on 20 October. [...]

TAI has manufactured two prototypes to date. The first Aksungur UAV is now being used for firefighting purposes by the Turkish General Directorate of Forestry, while the second has been given to the Turkish Navy. In addition, TAI has commenced mass production and plans to have four drones completed by the end of the year. [...] During trials, it carried out the live firing at 20,000ft altitude and hit the naval target successfully with a KGK-SIHA-82 guided munition at a range of 30km in the Black Sea on 25 April.

Technical Information:

Wing Span: 24m
Horizontal Length: 11.6m
Endurance: >50 hours, with 750 kg of external payload 12 hours at 25 kft
Engine: 2 x PD-170 Dual Turbo Diesel Engine (170 Horse Power each)
Max Takeoff Flight: 3300 kg
Service Ceiling: >40.000 ft
Weapon portfolio:

Aksungur has 3 hardpoints on each wing with 500 kg, 300 kg and 150 kg capacities.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/202...-male-uav/

Schneemann
Die Türken versuchen im Prinzip den Vorteil der Assymetrie auszunutzen: wir haben Drohnen, die anderen haben keine oder unzureichend oder schlechtere Drohnen, also stehen unsere Drohnen gegen andere Systeme der anderen. Assymetrie ist im Kampf meist von Vorteil. Symetrie hingegen erschwert den Sieg, weshalb es oft keinen Sinn macht diese zu verfolgen. Ein symetrischer Ansatz wäre hier selbst Drohnen zu beschaffen, Drohnen gegen Drohnen einzusetzen usw

Wie aber könnte man die türkische Drohnenmacht assymetrisch kontern ?! Das ist eine Frage mit mehreren möglichen Antworten, und die Frage wird sein welche davon sich als richtig erweist.

Allgemein:

Über Drohnen im modernen Krieg und ihre Auswirkungen auf die internationale Politik und Ordnung:

https://mwi.usma.edu/mwi-podcast-global-...the-drone/

Zitat:Why do states—and nonstate actors—choose to use armed drones as weapons of war? How does that decision affect these actors’ international reputations? How do questions of law and morality intersect when it comes to drones? And, perhaps most fundamentally, beyond impacting the character of warfare, to what extent will armed, networked, and unmanned platforms change geopolitical dynamics and balances of power? In short, how will they affect global order?
Drohnenschwarm gegen US Streitkräfte:

https://warisboring.com/us-troops-target...-in-syria/

Zitat:US troops targeted with ‘deliberate and coordinated’ drone attack in Syria

A drone attack in Syria has been carried out against US troops- but American forces miraculously survived the encounter without a scratch.

The strike took place near the al-Tanf Garrison, where US troops are currently stationed as part of a security initiative.

US Central Command Capt. Bill Urban said the area “was subjected to a deliberate and coordinated attack.”

“Based on initial reports, the attack utilized both unmanned aerial systems and indirect fire,” Urban said. “All US personnel have been accounted for, and we are not aware of any injuries to US personnel at this time.”
Die Ukraine hat nun zum ersten Mal ihre türkischen TB-2 Drohnen eingesetzt:

https://defence-blog.com/ukraine-conduct...time-ever/

Zitat:Ukrainian Armed Forces have employed the Bayraktar TB2 armed drone for the first time in combat, Mil.in.ua reported Tuesday.

Citing a report from volunteer Roman Donik, Mil.in.ua reported that Turkish-made Bayraktar TB2 armed drones were used for the first time to destroy the enemy artillery that fired on the village of Granitne, after which the Russian-backed separatists announced the alleged liberation of the Armed Forces of the village of Staromaryivka.

Bayraktar TB2 managed to find, track and destroy 122mm D-30 howitzer south of the occupied Boykivske (formerly called Telmanovo). Howitzer had been responsible for the attacks against the village of Granitne.

Hier im Film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_conti...=emb_title
Zitat:Zweiter „Loyal Wingman“ fliegt

Boeing Australien hat auf dem Woomera Range Complex in Australien das zweite Versuchsmuster des Airpower Teaming System in die Luft gebracht. [...] "Wir befinden uns in einem stetigen Rhythmus von Flugtests auf dem Weg zu Missions- und Betriebstests, die es Boeing Australien, der RAAF und unserem australischen Industrieteam von mehr als 35 Unternehmen ermöglichen, die Flugeigenschaften und Fähigkeiten des unbemannten Teamingsystems schrittweise zu verbessern", sagte Glen Ferguson, Direktor von Boeing Airpower Teaming System – Australia and International. [...]

Bei den Flugtests des ersten Flugzeugs wurde das Fahrwerk zum ersten Mal wieder eingefahren. RUAG Australia lieferte die Fahrwerkssysteme für das Flugzeug, und BAE Systems Australia war maßgeblich an der Entwicklung, Lieferung und Unterstützung der Flugsteuerungs- und Navigationssysteme beteiligt, die im Rahmen der Flüge getestet wurden.
https://www.flugrevue.de/militaer/boeing...an-fliegt/

Schneemann