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#1
(12.01.2024, 14:24)Schaddedanz schrieb: ... Aber ich hätte gerne die Luftlande/Fallschirmjäger bei der Luftwaffe.

Da scheinen sich Satzteile davon geschlichen zu haben. Es gehört noch:
"Als ernsthaften Schritt in die Zukunft der Dimension Weltraum, #Sternenjäger ."
dazu.
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#2
Ernsthaft ?!
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#3
(12.01.2024, 17:43)Schaddedanz schrieb: "Als ernsthaften Schritt in die Zukunft der Dimension Weltraum, #Sternenjäger ."
dazu.

"Sternenjäger" impliziert eher (Starfighter like) Flugzeug. Also Dimension Ohne Luft
Da lieber Planeten(oder Himmelskörper)jäger oder Spacemarine Angel
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#4
(12.01.2024, 19:32)Quintus Fabius schrieb: Ernsthaft ?!

Ja ernsthaft! Die Dimension Weltraum ist nach längerem Zank zwischen Luftwaffe und Marine bei der Luftwaffe gelandet. Damit geht das See-Battalion/Brigade die Geschichte "da oben" nichts an und die Luftwaffe brauch zukünftig vergleichbare Inf für Landungsunternehmen
Da in Deutscher Tradition die Fallschirmjäger eh von der Luftwaffe kommen. Und ob man sie nun aus 400m-1km als Heereskräfte absetzt oder aus 100km Höhe als Sternenjäger, das operative Vorgehen nach ab dem Moment der Landung ist identisch.
Warum als 2 mal das gleiche Aufstellen? Nur damit die Luftwaffe bei Null anfängt und man Geld das für die nötige Ausrüstungsentwicklung gebraucht wird als Sold raushaut.

Stratosphärenjäger wäre auch noch im Angebot aber "Marine = Seesoldat" ist Tabu das es ja die Luftwaffe ist.
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#5
Alles klar.

Und um das ganze mal wieder aus dem Bereich des Lunatischen heraus zu bewegen:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40...t-proposal

https://jfsc.ndu.edu/Portals/72/Document...202022.pdf

https://www.thedefensepost.com/2022/06/2...yed-force/

https://theintercept.com/2022/06/19/spac...e-defense/

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/pentagon...rth-hours/

Wobei das in Wahrheit ganz alte Ideen sind, die schon seit Jahrzehnten ihr untotes Dasein treiben:

https://warisboring.com/space-marines-with-jetpacks/

https://warisboring.com/the-u-s-army-had...-soldiers/
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#6
Hab noch ne Vernetzun zum Ithacus Projekt gefunden:

https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedin...ds-marines

Zitat:The most ambitious postwar Marine proposal was Project Ithacus, a proposal to use massive, single-stage-to-orbit rocket ships to transport Marines across the globe. Proposed in 1963 by the Douglas Aircraft Corporation, Ithacus envisioned a squat, blunt-nosed rocket shaped like a .45-caliber bullet. Dubbed a “ballistic transport system,” it would fly a profile similar to an intercontinental ballistic missile, lifting off from the continental United States and briefly achieving low earth orbit before reentering the atmosphere and streaking down onto the landing zone.

Ithacus would have been 210 feet tall and 70 feet in diameter. The rocket featured a crew of 4, with 6 passenger decks holding 210 Marines each, for a total landing force of some 1,200 space-sick Marines. A transport version was to have carried 340 tons of cargo.

The Pentagon envisioned Ithacus as a way of quickly deploying Marines across the globe, without a fleet of vulnerable ships that took days or weeks to arrive. Ithacus had a proposed range of nearly 9,000 miles, which would have permitted a single rocket to carry more than 1,000 Marines to Moscow, Beijing, or Havana in less than an hour.

Ithacus eventually was dropped for being overly ambitious and dangerous. Rockets were—and remain—a dangerous form of transportation with a higher failure rate than other modes. The loss of a single Ithacus would exceed Marine Corps deaths at Tarawa.

The monstrous ambition of the Ithacus transport was exceeded only by the grandiose plan for getting Marines off the ship in hostile territory. To get men and equipment off a 200-foot tall rocket quickly, each Marine would use a jetpack.

Immerhin die Jetpacks sind inzwischen Real:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suHOLFhbwsM
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#7
https://spacenews.com/military-to-tap-co...-services/

Zitat:Rocket cargo

Purdy said he is in discussions with U.S. Transportation Command on forming a Space Force “sustainment operations and logistics” component to support the rocket cargo program, both for suborbital and orbital point-to-point cargo delivery.

“We absolutely would buy this as a service,” Purdy said. “We have no plans to go lay down billions of dollars to build out spaceports and launch pads and go buy these kinds of rockets,” he added. “Our desire is that commercial industry gets to a point where they can responsibly deliver military goods and logistics.”

Right now SpaceX — which won a major contract from the Air Force Research Laboratory — is the leading contender “but there are other companies looking at that as well,” he said.

SpaceX has said it plans to launch 200 to 300 times a year in the future, a number that got Purdy’s attention. “If they’re going to do that, the cost of launch is getting pretty negligible at that point, and that’s really intriguing,” he said. “From a rocket cargo perspective, the cost could end up being lower than delivering cargo on a military C-17 aircraft.”

https://spacenews.com/rocket-lab-signs-o...o-program/

Under these agreements with commercial launch companies, he said, “we will explore how to integrate rocket cargo systems in defense logistics processes and how to make space transportation a reliable and practical option for operations of the future.

Rocket Lab founder and CEO Peter Beck said in a statement that point-to-point space transportation offers a “new ability to move equipment quickly around the world in hours.[/quote]

Ein Gedanke denn ich dazu hätte wäre, dass spezifisch Deutschland eine solche Transportfähigkeit per Rakete vorschiebt um damit die Entwicklung eigener ballistischer Raketen zu "tarnen". Und der Bevölkerung könnte man es verkaufen mit schnellster Hilfe bei Naturkatastrophen und dergleichen. Im geheimen aber könnte man dann dies in Richtung Trägertechnologie entwickeln, für eine etwaig in der Zukunft dann noch notwendig werdende nukleare Bewaffnung oder andere solche Anwendungen.
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