Hubschrauber und Flugzeuge der US Army

[Jacks]

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U.S. Army Sees More Work on Modernizing Aircraft

ARLINGTON, Va., Jan 6 (Reuters) - U.S. Army helicopters, unmanned planes and other aircraft are performing well in Iraq and Afghanistan, but top Army leaders on Thursday said more work remains in an aggressive drive to modernize the fleet.

Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Schloesser, who heads the Army Aviation Task Force, said its No. 1 priority was adding weapons and equipment to protect aircraft from rocket-propelled grenades and other guerrilla attacks.

At the same time, Schloesser said the Army was hurrying to replace older aircraft with new armed reconnaissance, light utility and heavy-lift cargo helicopters.

"We have underfunded our programs in many cases ... for decades," Schloesser said, noting that cancellation of the $14.6 billion Comanche helicopter had freed up funds to pay for more Apache AH-64 helicopters and other programs.

For instance, the Army worked with Lockheed Martin Corp. to develop a new type of blast fragmentation Hellfire II missile that would be more effective in the urban battlefields of Iraq. Hellfire missiles were initially developed to hit tanks, but would pass through concrete block buildings in Iraq without exploding, because they did not contain metal reinforcements.

Army helicopters successfully used the new Hellfire missiles just last week to kill 20 Iraqi insurgents, Schloesser told an Association of the U.S. Army conference.
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Wir hatten Diskussion schon mal im Commachethread.
Aus denn frei gewordenen Miitteln wird einiges neu in die Hubschrauberflotte der Army investiert.
Dazu gehören mehr AH-64 D,ein neuer Aufklärugshubschrauber als Ersatz für die Kiowas sowie neue Transporthubschrauber CH-47.

edit by Turin: Hab mal den Titel geändert, da wir genausogut auch Flugzeuge hier näher besprechen können, ohne dass extra ein Thread notwendig wäre.

[Blindfisch]

Hat dei US Army eigentlich noch irgendwelche Flugzeuge zum Transport (Kurzstrecke für kleine Lasten oder so), Verbindung oder Aufklärung?
Die Mohawks und Broncos werden glaube ich doch nichtmehr bentzt oder?

[hunter1]

@Blindfisch

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Guck mal da, unter "Cargo". Vielleicht findest Du was. :daumen: Bin mir allerdings nicht sicher, ob es sich dabei nur um Flugzeugtypen der Air Force handelt, oder ob die der Army auch dabei sind.

[Jacks]

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soll die Army noch folgende Flugzeuge im Betrieb haben:

FLUGZEUGE:
4 "Guardrail" (RC-12D/H/K/N/P/Q)
9 ARL (DHC-7) (3 COMINT, 3 IMINT, 3 COMINT & ELINT)
46 C-12C/R "Huron"
90 C-12D/F/J "Huron"
3 C-20 "Gulfstream" III/IV
47 C-23A/B "Sherpa"
11 C-26 "Metroliner"
2 C-37
2 C-182
2 O-2
37 RC-12D/H/K "Guardrail"
12 RC-12P/Q "Guardrail"
3 T-34 "Turbo Mentor"
26 UC-35
4 UV-18A
1 UV-20A
9 RC-7
2 C-31
1 U-21

Als Transportflugzeuge würde ich folgende sehen:
C-26 "Metroliner"
C-23A/B "Sherpa"
C-12 und Varianten

[Jacks]

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Boeing Signs $549 Million Chinook Contract


(Source: Boeing Co.; issued Jan. 12, 2005)


ST. LOUIS --- The Boeing Company and the U.S. Army signed a $549 million contract Dec. 21, 2004, for 17 new-build CH-47F Chinook helicopters.

“The contract underscores the importance of the Chinook to U.S. Army aviation and validates the steps we've taken to improve the aircraft's cost, quality and performance,” said Jack Dougherty, Chinook program manager. “Our ability to respond rapidly to customer needs has made the Chinook more attractive in domestic and international markets.”

The contract, the largest Chinook order by any domestic or international customer since the mid-1980s. It includes seven aircraft authorized in December 2003 as part of the FY '03 supplemental defense appropriation bill and 10 aircraft approved in the current fiscal year defense budget. Manufacturing preparations have continued since the FY '03 authorization under an undefinitized contract agreement. Deliveries of the 17 new-build Chinooks will begin in September 2006 and continue through the end of 2008.

The U.S. Army Systems Acquisition Review Council, the Army's highest acquisition review panel, approved a new acquisition plan that increases the Chinook fleet from 463 to 513 aircraft. Under the plan, the Army will modernize its entire fleet of 397 CH-47D Chinooks to the new F-model configuration and procure at least 55 additional new-build CH-47F Chinooks. The U.S. Army Special Operations Command will increase its inventory of 34 MH-47D/E Special Operations Heavy Assault Chinooks to 61 MH-47Gs, with an option for future growth.
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[Cyprinide]

Verdammt sind die Dinger teuer! :oah:

[ChrisCRTS]

Circa 32 milionen US dollars pro stuck!:oah:
Dagegen ist der EF ein schnäpchen!

[Turin]

Circa 32 milionen US dollars pro stuck!
Dagegen ist der EF ein schnäpchen!

Wie so oft sollte man diesen Preis nicht ohne weiteres als Basispreis nur für den Heli ansehen! Wir wissen nicht, was in dem Paket alles mit drin ist, zB. Training, Ersatzteile, Wartung etc. pp.!

[Jacks]

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Army to Purchase New Chinooks, Upgrade Fleet

WASHINGTON --- All of the Army's CH-47 Chinooks will be upgraded to the new CH-47F models by 2018 as the result of a partnership between the service and Boeing, the helicopter's manufacturer.

The Army will buy 55 new CH-47F models, have 397 helicopters remanufactured into CH-47Fs, and have 61 remanufactured to the CH47G used by Special Forces units. Total procurement costs through 2018 will be $11.4 billion.

In a media round table Jan. 12, Col. William T. Crosby, project manager Cargo Helicopter, said the effort will keep the Chinook in the air even longer than the U.S. Air Force's B-52 bomber.

When the helicopters are remanufactured, they will be rebuilt from the ground up. The Chinooks will receive recapitalized depot-level repair components that are nearly “zero hour” or new. The aircraft will receive new airframes.

The new version of the Chinook features a modern “glass cockpit” avionics suite, in which computer displays replace the more traditional “steam gauges” seen on traditional control panels. Crosby said the CH-47s Common Avionics Architecture System is based on the MH-47G common core. The UH-60M program plans to use the same system

“The software is different, but when you plug in the hardware, it checks to see which aircraft its in and installs the right software,” Crosby said. “This is part of the Common Avionics Architecture System we've been working on.”

Crosby said research showed that it was less expensive to replace the entire fuselage than to rebuild the 40-year-old airframes currently in service. Many of the new airframes interior formers and load bearing members are machined in one piece, much stronger than those used in the original airframes, which were built of numerous pieces riveted together. Crosby said the changes amount to a 50 to 60 percent reduction in part numbers for some components.

The upshot of these changes was a reduction in the price of a new helicopter from the $42 million to $30 million. The price for remanufactured helicopters is expected to be slightly lower than $30 million, but is still being negotiated. Crosby said the lower cost became possible when the Army agreed to fund non-recurring costs at a higher rate.
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[hawkeye87]

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U.S. Army Seeks Mini-C-130
The U.S. Army is using its current priority in Pentagon budgeting to get several billion dollars, and no opposition from the air force, to buy a new fixed wing transport. According to an agreement with the air force over half a century ago, the army is restricted in how many (very few) fixed wing aircraft it can have. Currently the Army National Guard is allowed to operate 44 two engine (propeller) C-23 aircraft. [...]
But in Iraq, the army C-23s have proved invaluable in getting priority army cargos where they are needed. Despite all the air force C-130s there, the army has to wait up to five days to get a C-130. The air force has the final word on what their C-130s carry, and that’s why the army wants some of its own transports.

So the army is asking for up to $4 billion to buy 128 replacement aircraft. The new transport would be a militarized version of an existing transport (CN-235, C-295 and C-27J are most often mentioned.) What all these aircraft have in common is greater capacity (about half the C-130s 20 ton load), and the ability to fly higher than the C-23s 20,000 foot maximum altitude (which prevents it from being used in Afghanistan). [...]

dem programm sollte man sich anschleißen :daumen:

[ChrisCRTS]

Jein. Alle Flugzeuge oben ^^ sind aus Europa. Und viele davon schon in dienst in verschiedene Europaische länder.
Also braucht Deutschland nicht umbedingt die US "wege" zu folgen.

[Shahab3]

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U.S. PROBES COPTER CRASHES IN IRAQ

WASHINGTON [MENL] -- The United States has been investigating a series of military helicopter crashes in Iraq.

Officials said the Defense Department and the U.S. Army have been examining the downing of three helicopters in Iraq within the past two weeks. They said the cause of the crashes has not been determined.
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