12.03.2004, 20:11
Ich habe etwas zur Kampfmoral der Türken:
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einige Quotes:
"The Turkish Brigade has been the subject of the world's praise, by showing a very superior combat capability which provided our state with honor through the successes it won one after another during the three year period of blood and fire starting from the hardest and most critical moment it entered the battlefield until the signing of the "Ceasefire" agreement. Because addressing all the battles of the Turkish Brigades, however briefly, will extend the subject, we will just suffice to list the battles fought and briefly address the most important ones."
"The bayonet of the Turkish Infantry had once again asserted its rule, and had opened the Sunchon Pass where the 2nd Division had come up against a stone wall. Thus the battles of the Brigade which were given the name Kunuri came to an end in a successful conclusion. The Turkish Brigade had succeeded to provide the necessary time and space for the withdrawal by preventing the encirclement of the Eighth Army and the IXth Army Corps and the destruction of the 2nd US Division, through the battles it fought on the dates of 27-30 November. The Turkish Brigade, which had no war experience, was affecting a great battle from its roots, was saving the friendly Army, which was starting to roll down a dangerous cliff, by stopping the superior numbers of enemy forces. Thus the Brigade was achieving fame in the world by playing an important role in the course of the war in its first battle."
"The enemy understood after this battle that there was no option but to "cease fire" and to restart the laying-down-of-arms negotiations in a lively and willing manner. In fact before long the "cease fire" was signed. The Turkish Brigade affected the "cease fire" which was signed in Korea, through the battles it fought on 28 and 29 May 1953. As can be seen, the Turkish Brigade had often demonstrated successes during the Korean battles, which affected the course of the war. Finally, the Turkish Brigade also fought the last battle leading to the "cease fire". Of course all these battles were not easy and without loss."
Die Einheit hatte keine Kampferfahrung und kämpfte trotzdem wie ein Bär für ein befreundetes Land. Stell dir mal erst mal vor wie es wäre wenn sie für ihr eigenes Land kämpfen würden. ERIEYE ich unterschätze die griechische Kampfmoral auf keinen Fall, aber die türkische Kampfweise ist eine spezielle. Auch wenn unser Land nicht eine Wirtschaftsmacht ist keine richtige Demokratie etc besitzt ist lieben wir unser Land über alles bis zum Tod!
P.S Zum Grossgriechischen Reich:
Unsere Faschisten haben eine ähnliche Idee
The Fundamental Political Opinion Of The MHP-Fascists
For understanding what the MHP means, it is necessary to
look at the political ideas of the MHP.
Their ideology is called Turanism. The adherents of this
ideology see "their own people" (just like the Nazis), the
Turkish people as a superior race. "The whole world" belongs "to
them". They dream of world domination. The MHP-fascists want a
"Greater Turkey", just like the Nazis wanted a "Greater German
Empire".
Concretely this means they want to subject all people and
countries, from the Caucasus to the Balkans and from the Balkans
through to Middle Asia to their slavery and put them under
Turkish rule. Their active support and propagandistic
contributions for the fascist and racist Turkish state is best
proof of this.
Their ideology does not allow any national rights to the
Kurds, Armenians, Laz, Arabs, Syrians, etc. who live in Turkey
(speaking freely in their native tongue, learning this language
or publishing in it, etc.). The MHP does not even recognize these
peoples and threatens to "cleanse" society from non-Turkish
"elements" and it tries to put this threat into practice. A
slogan, used by the MHP, goes: "Either you become Turks and
become proud to be a Turk, or you'll have to reckon with your
extermination."
Of course there are differences between the policy of the
Nazis and the policy of the MHP. However, these differences are
marginal and arise from the differing circumstances in Germany
and Turkey. Anyway, both groups have the following similarities:
They both serve the ones in power, both serve oppression till its
most bloody form, one serves German imperialism, the other serves
Turkish fascism.
[Bild: http://www.bozkurt.net/html/posta/bild10.jpg]
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einige Quotes:
"The Turkish Brigade has been the subject of the world's praise, by showing a very superior combat capability which provided our state with honor through the successes it won one after another during the three year period of blood and fire starting from the hardest and most critical moment it entered the battlefield until the signing of the "Ceasefire" agreement. Because addressing all the battles of the Turkish Brigades, however briefly, will extend the subject, we will just suffice to list the battles fought and briefly address the most important ones."
"The bayonet of the Turkish Infantry had once again asserted its rule, and had opened the Sunchon Pass where the 2nd Division had come up against a stone wall. Thus the battles of the Brigade which were given the name Kunuri came to an end in a successful conclusion. The Turkish Brigade had succeeded to provide the necessary time and space for the withdrawal by preventing the encirclement of the Eighth Army and the IXth Army Corps and the destruction of the 2nd US Division, through the battles it fought on the dates of 27-30 November. The Turkish Brigade, which had no war experience, was affecting a great battle from its roots, was saving the friendly Army, which was starting to roll down a dangerous cliff, by stopping the superior numbers of enemy forces. Thus the Brigade was achieving fame in the world by playing an important role in the course of the war in its first battle."
"The enemy understood after this battle that there was no option but to "cease fire" and to restart the laying-down-of-arms negotiations in a lively and willing manner. In fact before long the "cease fire" was signed. The Turkish Brigade affected the "cease fire" which was signed in Korea, through the battles it fought on 28 and 29 May 1953. As can be seen, the Turkish Brigade had often demonstrated successes during the Korean battles, which affected the course of the war. Finally, the Turkish Brigade also fought the last battle leading to the "cease fire". Of course all these battles were not easy and without loss."
Die Einheit hatte keine Kampferfahrung und kämpfte trotzdem wie ein Bär für ein befreundetes Land. Stell dir mal erst mal vor wie es wäre wenn sie für ihr eigenes Land kämpfen würden. ERIEYE ich unterschätze die griechische Kampfmoral auf keinen Fall, aber die türkische Kampfweise ist eine spezielle. Auch wenn unser Land nicht eine Wirtschaftsmacht ist keine richtige Demokratie etc besitzt ist lieben wir unser Land über alles bis zum Tod!
P.S Zum Grossgriechischen Reich:
Unsere Faschisten haben eine ähnliche Idee
The Fundamental Political Opinion Of The MHP-Fascists
For understanding what the MHP means, it is necessary to
look at the political ideas of the MHP.
Their ideology is called Turanism. The adherents of this
ideology see "their own people" (just like the Nazis), the
Turkish people as a superior race. "The whole world" belongs "to
them". They dream of world domination. The MHP-fascists want a
"Greater Turkey", just like the Nazis wanted a "Greater German
Empire".
Concretely this means they want to subject all people and
countries, from the Caucasus to the Balkans and from the Balkans
through to Middle Asia to their slavery and put them under
Turkish rule. Their active support and propagandistic
contributions for the fascist and racist Turkish state is best
proof of this.
Their ideology does not allow any national rights to the
Kurds, Armenians, Laz, Arabs, Syrians, etc. who live in Turkey
(speaking freely in their native tongue, learning this language
or publishing in it, etc.). The MHP does not even recognize these
peoples and threatens to "cleanse" society from non-Turkish
"elements" and it tries to put this threat into practice. A
slogan, used by the MHP, goes: "Either you become Turks and
become proud to be a Turk, or you'll have to reckon with your
extermination."
Of course there are differences between the policy of the
Nazis and the policy of the MHP. However, these differences are
marginal and arise from the differing circumstances in Germany
and Turkey. Anyway, both groups have the following similarities:
They both serve the ones in power, both serve oppression till its
most bloody form, one serves German imperialism, the other serves
Turkish fascism.
[Bild: http://www.bozkurt.net/html/posta/bild10.jpg]