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[Erich]

Ich wollte Eure Diskussion zu SSN vrs. SSK nicht abwürgen (auch wenn die eher in einem anderen Strang geführt werden müsste), deshalb nur kurz eine Anmerkung:

Sonntags kann ein SSK in Heimatgewässern auch mal ein SSN versenken, aber die Frage stellt sich so für die USN nicht, weil sie prinzipell auswärts spielt und das nicht nur sonntags. Daß Manövererfolge von SSKs gegen SSNs bejubelt werden, sollte eigentlich jedem klar machen, daß das nicht der Normalfall ist.

Sorry, aber wer das MarineForum liest ist klar im Vorteil: Die norwegische KNM UTVAER (ULA-Klasse, aus dem Entwicklungsprojekt Typ 210 entstanden) hatte ein extem leises Antriebssystem und durfte (daher) 2004

bei der NATO-Übung "Joint Winter" nach zu vielen "Treffern", darunter des britischen Flaggschiffs HMS INVINCIBLE, nur noch außerhalb der Wertung mitfahren.

Quelle: MF 11/2009, "100 JAHRE NORWEGISCHE U-BOOT-WAFFE"

aber zurück zur PLAN:
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China's Subs Getting Quieter
But Still Louder Than Older Russian Submarines
By william matthews
Published: 30 November 2009 Print | Email

The Chinese Navy appears to be stressing quality over quantity as it modernizes its submarine force, according to a U.S. Navy intelligence report. But China still has a way to go on quality. Some of its newest submarines are as noisy as subs built decades ago.

Nuclear-powered Jin-class ballistic missile submarines are designed to give China's naval force, known as the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN), "a credible second-strike capability," the U.S. Navy said in an August intelligence report that surfaced briefly on the Office of Naval Intelligence Web site, then vanished. The report was captured and published by the Federation of American Scientists.

The Jins - there are two in service - are more advanced than China's first-generation Xia ballistic missile submarines, but they're not exactly stealth machines.

According to a chart in the U.S. Navy report, Jins are louder than Soviet Delta III submarines built 30 years ago.
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China’s Naval Modernization

Introduction

Recent statements by paramount leader Hu Jintao and others indicate that China is now signaling its political intent, and indeed is beginning to assemble the naval forces, to begin to defend China’s wide ranging interests further abroad. ....

und die Modernisierung schlägt sich auch in zunehmenden "out of aerea" Aktivitäten - nicht nur zur Piratenbekämpfung - nieder:
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Chinese naval fleet makes goodwill port call in Peru

(Source: Xinhua) 2009-12-05

　　LIMA, Dec. 3 (Xinhua) -- A Chinese destroyer and a support vessel on Thursday arrived at Callo for a goodwill port call and a friendly visit.
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Chinese navy ships to participate in Sino-Vietnamese joint patrol in Beibu Gulf

(Source: PLA Daily) 2009-12-02

At 16:00 on December 1, headed by Senior Captain Zhang Leyi, deputy commander of the Support Base of the South China Sea Fleet (SCSF) of the Navy of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army, the Chinese Navy’s guided missile gunboats “Chenghai” and “Chaoyang” departed from a military port in Sanya, a port city in south China’s Hainan Province, and sailed to the Beibu Gulf to participate in the 8th joint patrol by navies of China and Vietnam. The two Chinese gunboats are also scheduled to visit Haiphong of Vietnam.
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