Vanitas schrieb:Der neue Wettbewerb ist eine Farce, denn er ist von vornherein auf Lockheeds JSF zugeschnitten.

phantom schrieb:Wieso eine Farce? Endlich ist man zur Vernunft gekommen und gewichtet die Schlüsselfaktoren richtig.

Zitat:Russia renews PAK-FA overtures to South Korea

India's decision to reduce the number of Sukhoi Perspektivniy Aviatsonnoi Kompleks-Frontovoi Aviatsii (PAK-FA) T-50 fifth-generation fighters it is procuring has led Russia's United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) to search for new markets for the aircraft.

This may include the Republic of Korea Air Force (RoKAF), which failed to select an aircraft for its FX-III requirement in September after turning down the Boeing F-15 Silent Eagle concept after it had been shortlisted by Seoul's procurement agency. The Eurofighter Typhoon and Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter also competed.

Zitat:Südkorea deckt sich mit neusten US-Jagdbombern ein

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SEOUL, 22. November (RIA Novosti). Südkorea will in den kommenden Jahren 40 neuste Jagdbomber vom Typ F-35A aus Produktion des US-Konzerns Lockheed Martin kaufen.

Die Maschinen sollen von 2018 bis 2022 geliefert werden, ...

Zitat:South Korea cancels F-16 upgrade contract

South Korea has asked the US government to terminate a contract with BAE Systems to upgrade 134 of the Republic of Korea Air Force's (RoKAF's) Lockheed Martin F-16 Block 50/52 fighter aircraft, the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency announced on 5 November.

Zitat:Diese harte Ausbildung ist aber nicht zuletzt einer der Gründe für die besonders große Kampfkraft südkoreanischer Truppen

Zitat:Die Schattenseite ist, dass gegen Außenseiter etc sehr schnell auch ohne Grund zu immenser Gewalt gegriffen wird, um diese konform zur Gruppe zu machen oder als Gewaltreaktion der Gruppe auf die Nonkonformität.

Zitat:U.S. reluctance of tech transfer to derail S. Korea’s indigenous fighter jet plan

SEOUL, July 14 (Yonhap) — The United States’ reluctance to transfer core fighter jet technology is feared to derail South Korea’s multi-billion dollar project to build indigenous combat planes, a professor well-versed in the issue said Tuesday.

Zitat:Korea Aerospace Industries Ltd. signed a deal with Indonesia on Sunday, clinching the Southeast Asian country's partnership in a lavish local fighter jet development program.

Under the preliminary contract, Indonesia will shoulder 20 percent, or 1.7 trillion won ($1.5 billion), of the program's 8.7 trillion-won cost to develop the advanced multi-role combat jet, according to the airplane manufacturer.

The Korean Fighter Experimental program is designed to develop and mass-produce homegrown dual-engine combat airplanes by 2025. It's one of the most lavish defense procurement projects here with more than 8 trillion won in development costs in addition to 10 trillion won to be spent in mass production. KAI is South Korea's contractor manufacturer of the program.

With the partnership, Indonesia will be entitled to purchase 50 new planes.

Under the deal signed Sunday, Indonesia will be able to take part in the designing of the airplane, as well as in the production of components for the program.

It will also be entitled to acquire the aviation technology of the project and bring home one experimental airplane, according to KAI.

"All the specifics have been agreed upon with the Indonesian side, regarding the KF-X development," said Jang Sung-sub, director of KAI. The KAI-Indonesia deal will be finalized after KAI signed its final agreement with the South Korean government as the contractor of the project later this year.

The latest deal will help expedite the local project, which has been criticized by the National Assembly, as well as the public.

The program was dealt a major blow after the U.S. Department of State refused in April to approve U.S.-based Lockheed Martin's transfer of four core aviation technologies for the South Korean project.

Speculation had also circulated that Indonesia might take back its offer to form a partnership first committed in 2011.

In addition to the 120 and 50 units to be delivered to the South Korean and Indonesian air forces, respectively, KAI plans to produce up to 600 units of the new airplane to sell them overseas, another KAI official said.

Zitat:The government is facing growing calls to restart its problematic fighter jet development program from square one ― and cancel a deal with Lockheed Martin to purchase F-35 stealth fighters, if necessary.

Some politicians and critics say it seems almost impossible for the nation to develop its own fighter jet by the designated year of 2025 due to growing uncertainties over technology transfers from Washington.

"It is not an easy decision to cancel the F-35 deal, but the idea is well worth considering if it is hard for Korea to acquire the U.S. technology through the deal," said Rep. Kim Kwang-jin of the main opposition New Politics Alliance for Democracy (NPAD) to The Korea Times.

Kim noted that the government appeared to have already considered cancelation, citing that the Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) has estimated expenses that the nation must pay as a cancellation charge if the F-35 deal is canceled.

Zitat:The lawmaker said Washington is mindful that Seoul might become a potential future competitor of Washington in the fighter jet export market.

"One of the reasons why the KF-X project is facing difficulties is that the U.S. is not too happy about Korea developing its own fighter jets," he said. "The U.S. is concerned about the possible decline of its fighter jet exports, which would also reduce the level of dependence of its allies on Washington."

Zitat:Those who call for cancelation of the nation's purchase of F-35s cite Canada's example.

In October, Canada's new Liberal Party government announced its decision to cancel the country's planned 65-plane purchase, becoming the first partner among nine countries to withdraw from the Pentagon's F-35 joint strike fighter program.

Canada's move to drop the F-35s came as then-Prime Minister Stephen Harper of the Conservative Party was accused in 2012 of having lied about the true cost of operating the stealth fighters.

Quintus Fabius schrieb:Un exakt dass muss die Zielsetzung sein - ein Deutsch-Koreanisches Stealth-Kampfflugzeug welches als Billigvariante der F-35 eine Alternative zu dieser bietet.
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Jetzt noch ein ausländischer Partner welcher entsprechende Technologie zur Verfügung stellen kann (also wir) und die Sache (KF-X) könnte in einigen Jahren laufen (respektive fliegen):

Zitat:In der Wirtschaftswissenschaft heißt es immer: man brauche zumindest zwei Anbiete, zwei Firmen, zwei Produkte usw aber in der Realität gibt es nur noch LM und die F-35 und diese Monopol-Stellung halte ich für sehr problematisch, noch mal abgesehen von den Abhängigkeiten welche sie hier in Bezug auf die USA schafft. Die USA sind nicht unser Freund und werden uns im Stich lassen sobald sie daraus einen Vorteil ziehen.